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.🎼搬手剥壳工作室。世界太高端，我爱近护端。🎼hello,大家好，我是樊云如，欢迎收听景湖灯会议样。然后我有一个系列是很多时间没有更新了，是跟年轻人对话的一个系列啊。然后因为呃那么多年做博客，身边的圈层博客圈和原来我做呃文创创业的时候的圈层，发会发觉身边有一些跟自己差10岁以上的一些年轻人啊，然后当时有这么一个想法，跟身边一些觉得有意思的年轻人对话。呃，这么一个系列。然后。呃，这次非常有这个有意思的一个点，就是通过朋友介绍啊，认识一个要我算了一算，你大概比我小个十六七岁左右哈，那等于是。呃，Z时代对吧这对吧？然后同时又是自己身上有很多，待会让他自己来跟大家介绍，有身上很多呃跟可能会让大家觉得蛮新鲜的一些标签。然后呢有这么一个契机啊，跟我们今天的嘉宾对谈。所以说我们今天非常开心，也可以让我这个呃跟年轻人对话的这个系列，再次加入一集啊。我们让我欢迎我们今天嘉宾james愉快。大家好，非常高兴能来到这个节目，还是有点紧张。听。😊是第一次呃参加那个播客的第一次第一次录制播客。嗯，，但那个那天我问你就是你平时会听一点播客的东西。对，平时但是听的东西比较偏干货嘛，就是呃比如说商业的科技的对吧？就这这种东西但是从小喜欢听广播节目，喜欢嗯那个为什么刚才说那个james身上的一些标签，可能很多人会觉得比较意外啊，首先你最大的一个标签，其实你是一个年轻的职业赛车。的手对吧我先问一下，你现在这个年龄，你快刚刚刚25周岁对吧？是的，25岁。作为职业赛车手，可以用年轻来形容吗？我我不太懂这个这个行业啊。呃，我觉得取决于参加的比赛的种类。嗯，呃对于集T来说应该是属于比较年轻的GT是算对比较年轻GT相对比较年轻。啊，呃，对于方程式来说的话，其实不算不算年轻啊，就方程式的话可能就是出到黑更早一点。方程式的话，比如说像F3的比赛差不多是十七八岁。F2的比赛一般年轻的车手都是20岁20岁以内就可以已经显山露水。啊。，那听上去跟电竞一样。是的，其实年轻还是有他的一定的优势。嗯，开车这件事情跟年纪真的是有关系的。你的反应尤其就是越快的。呃，那种赛车的话，其实越考验的反应啊和那种敏捷度啊那种东西啊，是你自己是什么时候开始喜欢上车这件事情的？车真的是从小就喜欢有多小，大概上幼儿园的时候，幼儿园对幼儿园的时候，家里给我买玩具车，包括我坐家里的车去，每天上下学，嗯，然后从窗外看到路上。行驶的车辆我就。对对车这个东西啊就特别的喜欢。OK你能不能跟大家简单介绍一下。因为刚才提到GT啊，就是算你在你在这个年龄在GT这个领域里面算相对年轻一点，对吧？你跟大家介绍一下，现在你的官方的title对吧？就是你的名字是james嘛愉快嘛，对吧？然后这个名字听上去也是快，这快真的是快慢那个快对吧？就是是是本名啊，是的是本名没改过啊，，就是从小就父亲父亲母亲对你的一个期待，就是跟速度是。相关的啊这个感觉。那你现在官方的title是什么？因为今天你如果大家看视频版本的话，能看到你穿的这个衣服其实跟你那个工呃就是什么赛车手的身份还是有点相关的对吧？这个就是在工作的时候穿的衣服OKO官方的title是奥迪运动亚洲的官方车手嗯嗯。😊我从差不多。1314岁的时候开始职业的在日本跑卡丁车的比赛。差不多十五六岁的时候，第一次接触方程式的赛车嗯。呃，然后跑F3跑了大概34年吧，嗯，也就是从20年疫情的时候开始接触到GT赛车。嗯嗯然后。2022年的时候加入了这个奥迪的青训计划。哎，我真的是门外行，你能不能用简单的就路人都明白的语言给我们解释一下GT跟方程式的区别是什么？方程式的赛车其实就像我们看的F一比赛里面那种对，就是open wheel，它的4个车轮是路在外面的。嗯，那其实GT以一个比较简单的方式去想，就是家用车嗯的那种跑车超跑就是飞驰人生里面看到的那种车嘛，有一点不一样，有一点不一样，飞驰人生他讲的主要是拉力O对，拉力跟集T又不一样了，有一些区别。OK你慢慢讲的呃，拉力的话是它是。第一种。飞场地就是在民用的公路上，嗯，然后从A点跑到B点OK他有沙石路，它有越野，他也有可能在柏油路上进行。是对，然后他用的车往往是像类似于先贝车这样的车型去改装的。而GT的话往往是以场地赛场地赛是在一个固定的一个赛车场上面的对，比如说像上海赛车场OK呃，萤时赛道，然后是固定的一圈，比如说4公里5公里，然后一圈一圈的这样跑嗯。嗯，然后他用的车型往往是比如说我们知道他超跑超跑奥迪R8法拉利296。兰博基尼的这个盖拉多或者horic以超跑去做一个改装，然后在赛道上面竞。嗯嗯对，所以说他用的车型和比赛的方式和比赛的场地也有点不太一样。嗯，那你现在是奥迪的，就是说签约车手。嗯，然后我双方方便问一下，就是最好的荣誉啊，咱们比较是那个那个功利一点啊，就是想听听拿过多少冠军或者什么比赛的那种冠军。其实去年的比赛呃，等于是这个赛季结束是我们到目前为止取得过最好的成绩，也就是组别的年度去年是指25年哦OK是的嗯我们拿到了自己的所参加组别的年度冠军嗯是什么比赛？呃，是GT世界亚洲呃GT世界挑战赛的亚洲吧。嗯嗯呃这个GT世界挑战赛，其实是全世界最高规模的。GT3组别的比赛，嗯，然后他一共分了差不多4个板块吧，有亚洲，有美洲，有欧洲，然后还有澳大利亚这边。嗯然后我们因为是奥迪亚洲嘛，我们选择参加的是GT世界的这个亚洲嗯亚洲杯的比赛。然后这个比赛我已经参加了3年了嗯。之前一直没有能够拿到组别的冠军，然后在去年我们拿到了一场分战冠军，然后最终的积分拿到了组别的底，就年度的冠军年度的组别冠军。对对对OK这个因为真的我对赛车这个比赛不是很了解啊，就如果用用大家别人能了了解的那种比喻的话，是不是相当于什么足球里边什么亚洲杯冠军。如果把GT这个赛车视作一个独立的项目的话，他可能呃可能我刚才理解你说四个板块嘛，对吧世界挑战的可能比如说美洲杯、欧洲杯、亚洲杯对吧？然后什么什么杯，然后亚洲杯的一个年度的冠军，但是他是每年都办嘛，不像那种足球那种比赛，什么四年办一次啊什么的，是这个感觉吧。没错，OK每年都有。刚才那个理解我觉得非常的贴切啊，是吧？是可以这么理解可以这么理解哦，那等于是我相信这段说完，大家瞬间理解你现在在这个圈层的一个大概的一个声位啊，算应该算亚洲领域里边GT这个赛车这个运动的冉冉上升的。呃，星星吧应该可以这么说吧，自自己要承认这一点好像有点子啊。其实亚洲杯的比赛有很多欧洲的车手过来哦会过来的，就有点像足球或者篮球比赛的外援啊，但他的外援的数量可能还不少，他可能70%以上都是外援组成的。都是从欧洲的最系列最顶尖的比赛过来的那些外援，所以也就导致了其实亚洲杯的比赛的激烈程度一点都不亚于欧洲那边。嗯嗯那平时我们如果中。😊国的车迷是有机会看到你的比赛的吗？是的，像去年的话，其实在中国国内就一场比赛，是上赛场吗？是北京的一个街道赛，北京的街道赛啊。对，是北京第一次办GT3的街道赛。然后今年26年的话有一场上赛的比赛啊，然后还有10月份的北京的街道赛哦，得有两场上赛场的是几月份上赛是在初夏的时候，应该56月份应该是6月份左右，6月份左右，那那得有机会可以去看一眼啊，上赛的上赛场上面的那个。那再回到关于车这件这件问题上面啊嗯。喜从小喜欢车哥，真的上手，想要做职业车手这件事情还是性质很不一样。你现在应该算职业车手吧。我觉得可以这么说吧，这什的你是什么时候下定决心，或者说什么样的契机？那个一脚跨入到赛车的这个领域。因为这个相信很多人小时候喜欢车啊嗯，但是真的要自己去上手开赛车，或者说从事比赛这件事情是需要很大的一个推动力的啊。你你你大概是因为什么样的一个机缘是真的开始。开赛车这件事情，我觉得要非常感谢父母对我的投入。那我就想让你说这个事情，因为因为其实大家都很知道这个赛这个运动真的不便宜。😊这个运动很烧钱。嗯嗯呃一般来说小车手我们都是从卡丁车开始起步的。嗯，其实我起步的算挺晚的，十二三岁才第一次接触到。就是专业竞赛的卡丁车。嗯哼。像在欧洲，比如说我们看到的现在的F一很出色的维斯塔盘也好，乐克拉尔也好，他们可能从六七岁开始，嗯哼就甚至更小就坐上卡丁车。那开始的时间越早，到后来，其实你这个对驾驶技能的这些掌握就会越容易嗯。呃。所以首先从卡丁车上就要投入一笔不小的金额嗯。当时求爸妈还是什么？当时他们是有意培养你，还是说真的很尊重你个人的一个想法。我觉得两者都有都有OK我自己当然也很喜欢车。然后他们带我去了卡丁车的这个赛车场，让我坐在车上尝试。其实很多车手，包括我跟他们交流都是这样，都是一开始父母带他们去尝试一下卡丁车，或者哪怕是游乐场的卡丁车，他们就小朋友对驾驶车的感觉嗯就特别的喜欢。那父母就说哎，那我让你试试看哎买一台卡丁车给你去参加一下比赛，看你能不能够做的好。很多都是这样开始起步的嗯。那卡丁车当做到一定成绩之后，那就看怎么去走到下一步方程式。但是卡丁车跳到方程式，那对于资金的要求。可以说是要指数级增长吧，要难很多方程式就一开始就F3嘛，一开始其实F4F4一般是F4啊，你跟我说F4，我想到那个组合，就是如果从卡丁车跳到F4大概投入是从什么规模到什么规模，卡丁车到一台大概多少钱。当你当年还记得卡丁车一台现在其实比当年还要贵不少，那肯定那现在大概是多少钱，我么讲我们把比赛的费用练习的费用就是杂七杂八的都去除，我。只看一台车架，嗯哼可能你要做的好的话，还不能只有一台。，那你可能多来个几个车架，嗯哼，人民币就。可能至少小几十万的投入是需要一台嘛？呃所有的。就是正常的。就如果我们想要开始走一个比较职业化的道路的话，嗯嗯嗯可能就需要个小几十万。那等于是你在很小小朋友的时候，如果要父母支持你开卡丁车的话，就要投入小几十万。嗯，就是如果打点富裕的话，还有因为还有比赛的费用，还有整个那个比如说教练或者怎么样一些东西乱七八糟在一起的话，小100万大概得要吧。对，因为卡丁一年吗，这是。用车车可以一年一年的话可能对嗯当然这取决于你参加比赛的数量，你练习的数量。嗯，因为其实车可能买来，我假设哦10万块买一个车架，车架可能就就不动了。如果不撞的话，可能可以一直用下去。是的是的，但是如果我们要追求成绩的话，我们需要练习。那练习最花钱的会损耗是轮胎轮胎轮胎一套其实很贵，但是可能你跑个二三十圈，这套胎就就废掉了，废掉了，你要买新的轮胎，你要加油你要。对换很多易损件。那这些钱可以马上就就变得非常的昂贵。对，如果想要因为如果你想要做的好，你肯定要比较刻苦的比较多的去练习。是是是。但1到F4的话，是不是就就要要贵很多？是的，F4大概能比如说我们下瞎举例子，你刚才说小几十万是卡丁车的入门。嗯，那F4的入门大概能到多少？据我知道，现在在。中东或者在欧洲跑一个赛季的F4，可能在比较好的车队需要三四百万人民币一年。哇哦。那就等于是可能很多家庭就是说纯靠家庭支持就比较难了。要到一个职业的一个程度，或者有赞助商这种的。是的嗯。See.那可从F4到F3，就是刚才那个金要再翻倍，要再翻一个对从F3到F2就是F3的可能要再翻翻一倍哦，怪不得F那么贵对，就这种感可能F2到F可能完全就是一个就不是翻倍的很难估算的一个价因为那个是全世界也就那几家公司在嘛，这几个车队在而且F2F2的F1并不是有钱就可以进那T呢T会感觉怎么样呢？T会稍微不。不一样一点嗯。GT它其实是以客户赛车为中心而开展的一个啊赛车赛是有客户的OK对，他是首先有客户。嗯，然后呢再有职业车手去支撑支持这些客户。通过这个这个比赛才可以成立，嗯，才可以走下去。当然也有很多的这个场队，嗯，包括前几年为止有那种纯职业车手的lineup。但是由于现在的这个。车企的资金紧缺的问题，这种纯职业的组合越来越少了，基本上以纯客户赛车，然后职业车手去支撑为为这个主轴。现在他们在在运营这样的比赛。嗯，哎，那聊到这边，我觉得有一个话题不得不跟你聊，就是从今年春节档开始，嗯，对比如说那个飞驰人生三嘛，然后之前有一和2啊什么的，然后去年其实25年我很喜欢一个电影，就是F one嗯，就是bra演的那个。F one就是我看到一个现象很有意思，就是照理说赛车电影算很小众的一种电影。嗯，对，但是其实这两部片子至少在上海吧都放的不错。嗯，对吧？尤其当然你说上海的观众比较喜欢看那种引进的一些外国电...（已截断）

Why is self awareness a problem?Self awareness is a problem. Well, first of all, I think it's important to recognize that we often think about self awareness as a good thing. We generally think about it as a gradient. So we, we might refer to somebody as being more or less self aware than others and more as is typically assumed as better.When I'm referring to self awareness, I'm referring to just the fact that we are aware of a self at all, and so the mere fact that we have a certain form of consciousness that provides us that sense of self is a problem for a number of reasons, first and foremost.We've arrived with a sense of self awareness by a process of evolution that doesn't really care. Obviously care. I'm using loosely there because evolution doesn't care at all about anything. besides it's just continuation propagation, but.The experience of consciousness and self awareness.From the first person perspective is not central to the reason for why self awareness and consciousness arrived in the form that humans experience it. And so we are often at odds with the fundamental nature of reality in existence by virtue of this self awareness. In my view, at least, and the reason for that is.As a self who is aware of that self, we attach to that self. We attach the ideas of that self. We attach to people and things.And our desire to make sense of our perception and understanding through all of the concepts that we form by nature of having that degree of awareness. And yet.Reality in existence.Is fickle, chaotic, uncertain.We're going to lose everybody and everything through time or distance, decay, age or illness or death and so.We, we find ourselves in this sort of.Cosmic Ocean.Where the waves are crashing on our heads constantly, and yet.We, we must continue because we are also.A part of the same substrate that that built us that needs continuation. So it puts us in this very peculiar position where we can feel the intensity and pain and suffering.That seems from a conscious, individual entity.Terrible.And yet we we just refuse to give up. We must endure. And so that's why it's problematic.But also, obviously, I see the other side of that coin and the paradox of self awareness, in my view, is that.Self awareness, selfcon, self apprehension is the most horrific, terrifying thing in the known universe, and yet it is the most beautiful thing in the known universe because as far as we're aware, it's the only thing that allows conceptual understanding of existence in reality, so we can form the very idea of beauty and wonder and meaning and purpose and hope.And it seems to me to be necessary that the first part, the other half of that coin is in the equation for the second half to be possible. Yeah, you've got this line. Self awareness is a sort of poison that we each consume upon birth.Yeah, yeah, I believe that's our our birthright is the the horrific qualities of self awareness, a poison, but that we as almost magicians or alchemists can transmute into into gold into art and beauty and wonder and love and all that. and and so it.😊It makes you want to, you know, you love and hate it in the fullest possible form of those words at the same time, at least obviously that's my perspective, I know maybe some people might see life and existence as purely positive and beautiful, Some might see it as purely negative and horrific and somewhere in between, there's a spectrum, but in my view, it's sort of it has to be both at the same time and that is the paradoxical nature of it.How much of that do you think is just us all coming up with some.Fancy philosophical explanation for our own idiosyncratic experience of the world that you have a bit of a grasp of the awe and a bit of a grasp of the dread. And some people are almost all dread. And some people are almost all awe. And each of them kind of create their own philosophical views of the world and the universe based around just, well, this is, this is my typical daily affect. This is my typical experience of things.😊I think that it's definitely important to not universalize your own perspective, your own experiences and your own way of thinking, it's easy to assume that the way you think both in the most literal of sense and in the most abstractive sense is the way most people do, and it's not the case, there's a huge spectrum and variety of modes of thought that people experience and operate through.People might be more visually inclined, people might be more linguistically inclined, people might be a more feeling orientation of the world, so just on that level alone there's a wide variety and spectrum of experience of thought and so we have to start there in recognizing that our own fundamental experience of the world and reality is not going to be universal in the way that we might project or assume if consciousness is a mystery that can't understand itself does that mean that,Human condition is just fundamentally tragic.Well, that's that's at the heart or a heart of...（已截断）

All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world, See you all in podcast.David Schs couldn't make it this week, but we have the trio David Freeberg is here your Sult of Science to Monpooppatia SpaceX filed confidentially to go public on April 1s targeting a 1.75 trillion with the T valuation when SpaceX goes public if it's at that $1.75 trillion valuation so we're just a trillion dollar valuation for an IPM they would be the eighth largest company in the world right behind.TSMC and Saudi Arco, they're both worth 1.7 x at the taping of this podcast. Tesla is number 10 with $1.37 trillion valuation. Hey, if you were to combine those two as many people are speculating will happen at some point. and you can buy the stock ticker ELO. that would be a $3.1 trillion company and that would make them the fourth largest company ahead of Microsoft, they're aiming to raise Ch $75 billion, which would be the by.The biggest raise ever in an IPO expected to go out in June, I think they were trying to hit the 420 date because that would have been even more hilarious, but they're not going to be able to do that.SpaceX recently acquired X. AI for 250 billion that includes X and Twitter and the XAI large language model AI company Starlink, generating between 50 and 80% of SpaceX's revenue will have all those details shortly, and it'll be close to $20 billion a year according to reports.Lunch of rockets is the other 40% of the business,5 billion in 2024, according to reports, total revenue,2025,15 to 16 billion with 8 billion in profit, according to Reuters. So let's stop there. And we're going to talk about all the other IPpoOs that could be coming Sha.I think people really want to know. and you may have mentioned this on an earlier episode. What are the chances that Tesla, after if this IPO goes well, that Tesla and Spacex could wind up being the same company, we saw there collaborating 100% on a Fab.100% is what you're putting it on. Okay, Okay, sorry, let me, let me be clear.99.999%, okay.What will that mean when if those two companies or when those two companies merge, one of the great things that happened in my career was there was a point where, you know, how like you grind at a level and then, you know, you just get exposed to things at a different level and then you grind for years and you get exposed to things yet another level.😊In one of those steps.I was very fortunate to be introduced.By Thomas Laont, actually, to the head of Watel Lipton.The firm law firm, then his name is Ed Hurleyhe.And he said, this is the most important, well known, well run, powerful law firm in America. Then I looked at the transactions, and they're just in the middle of everything. And now, you know, my lawyer, Rajnaarian, who does everything for me, one of the senior partners that walked out, I can attest are incredible. And they said to me in the middle of all of this.Stuff when I was doing a bunch of deals.They said,, just get ready.To pay a tax. And I said, what does that mean, they said.The way that the American capital markets are set up is both that you can be incredibly creative and do incredible things.But and we talked about this a little bit last week. there's a bunch of tort that allows folks to hang around the hoop and get paid no matter what you see this in all IPpoOs shareholder lawsuits abound and they try to create a class out of it and the reason they do that is that there's DO insurance that then will pay out some number of millions of dollars the attorneys take 40 or 50% and then these plaintiffs get a few bucks you saw how egregious this tor manipulation was when this guy with 10 shares Su.Comp package of Tesla and one and what was that really that was the trial lawyers trying to get paid hundreds of millions of dollars by exploiting a scene Why am I bringing this up if you take the the Raj and Ed example of this this SpaceX IPO is going to set up a couple of things The first is there's going to be the natural noise in the market and Elon will have to sort through all of the little tickki tacky things But the most important positive thing that will happen from the IPO.😡Is a validated external mark to market valuation of SpaceX.And the market every day in real time gives you a valid mark to market assessment of the value of Tesla.And this allows you to put these two things together to minimize.😡These losses.And I think that that's what Elon really needs. It'll make his life tremendously simpler from a governance perspective. It'll make the companies and this quibbling about his time, a non issue, because, again, nobody talks about Zuck or Satya or Sundar.Or Jensen allocating time across various projects inside of.Meta or Google or Microsoft or NviDdia, nor should they really make this claim for Elon, Because as you're seeing, there's actually an enormous overlap and commonality to the various things that he is doing. He's building the robots, but they're used inside of Spacex. He's building a Te...（已截断）

🎼The Joe Rogan experience during my day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.We're up Hey, Joe, great seeing you getting involved the same hair long. Joe, you are still to this date, the most watched ever podcast we have ever done. That's on YouTube. That's that's just unreal. It's unreal. It is unreal because it shows you how many people are just absolutely fascinated by the story. And what you guys have done in this new film.Is essentially recreate S 4 and using AI recreate you as a young man in these experiences that you had. And it was really excellent. Luigi, you're the one who put the film together, you.😊Figured it all out. And firstt of all, what was the technology that you guys use to recreate everything you. I just want to say there's, there's about 10% AI in the film, but there's 90% blender. And that's actually handmade CGI. So everything you see is all handmade.And even the deging of Bob Laar, we scanned Bob. We went over to his house, scanned his face, took a process of deging him through that, then creating a digital model of Bob in different ages and then placing him in the environment. And then in some instances at the very end, we perfected or kind of put a bow on it with a little touch of AI. But the whole thing is handmade. So the.The environment, the Paoo s,, the facility, the equipment and the people were all made. And some of the people are actually real actors that we put in there. So it's not, it's, it's, there's one of the guys that is Barry in the film. is a guy called Louise Martinez. hass been working with me for the past 10 years. And he laughs at it because he says, I can't believe I'm Barrry. You know, So does he look anything like Barry. Actually, he does. He does. That's why we chose. Yeah, yeah.😊Where is the actual berry now.I don't know. You know, I kind of thought at one point, after all this happened, we would at least hear from one of those guys. But I never heard from anybody after, you know, after the the initial.The releaselease of all the information. Yeah, it seems like.Wow, I don't know. If people are able to keep secrets for this long, It's got to be very difficult to just blurt it out. Like, you know, you're holding onto a secret for 20,30,40 years you're.It's like, I guess these guys were lifers, though. I mean, they spent most of their time there. They spent at least two weeks at a time and had one week off. So they stayed at the base. I mean, these guys were hardcore.I had just come in on the project, you know, so.I don't know. I don't know what happened to him. I'd love to know.I suspect that Dennis Mariaiani, my supervisor, died. I've seen people track him down, you know, all the way to point to speaking to his family. And they said, yeah, he had some classified job out in the desert or something. And They showed me his gravestone and stuff. So, you know, at least.They were able to track him down, but I've never heard of any leads on Barry or Renee or anybody like that.What is it like seeing the recreation of it in a film, Because, I mean, it essentially it was your.Direction for lack of a better word, your description of it, you, you telling them exactly everything was laid out. And then once they recreated it, what is that feeling like when you watch it.Well, the final product is absolutely in mind blowing because, as I've said to Luigi, it looks like you guys downloaded that out of my brain, I mean.You know, you can describe something 100 times. And until you actually make a picture, it doesn't become clear. But, you know, this took years. I think it was like five and a half years from when I first met Luigi. And he said, yeah, I can do this. And the quality kept improving to where he started showing me pictures. And I went, Jesus, that's, that's really it. It's not really it. It's really it. And I mean, it it.Bleluw me away. Later on, he showed me a 3D environment where I could put goggles on and move around inside. I mean, that made the hair stand up on my arms. It was, it was unbelievable. So I don't know if I could really describe how that made me feel. but it felt like I was teleported back there. And that's, you know, that's when really, I developed an admiration for Luigi's talent. I said, you know, I'm behind this and flew out to Canada a couple times. I didn't have much to do with.😊Film, other than.I guess a couple times going out there and going, no, that's right. That's the wrong color. Move this here. Do that. And, but those guys spent over three years working on it, and.You know what they, and they never showed me anything. You know, I speak to Luigi, you know, a couple times a month. And, you know, you'd always say, you you, oh my God, you won't believe this. I said, show me. no, it's not, it's not done yet. So I really didn't get it to see anything till close to the end. But when I did,.ReReally, without trying to sound dramatic. It really put tears in my eyes going that that's it. That's it. You did it. Just stop. It's perfect. Well, I had...（已截断）