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你好大辛苦。あれ。🎼hello,大家好，欢迎收听美丽想编辑部，我是林兰，我是佳俊，我是小木，我是思珍。今天我们这个局真的算是匆匆忙忙连滚带盘。但是我们想聊的话题呢，当然不算是临时起义的，还是因为我们最近真的被各种各样的AI信息刷屏。然后咱自己呢也用AI有一段时间了。所以我们今天就想要来一期这个生活感悟大乱炖，主要来谈谈我们用AI的一些感悟。然后第二趴，我们可能也会谈。😊一些最近对于这个工作啊，职业上面的一些想法。本期节目由科沃斯机器人赞助播出。那么事不宜迟，让我们先进入第一个话题，大家的AI的使用程度目前是怎么样的，可以聊聊他占了你的生活或者说工作大概多少的百分比，占我的生活比例主要是取决于我这段时间情绪怎么样。如果情绪不好，他应该占比就蛮高的。但情绪好，我就不太会用它。我就是有时候可能。能整理一下资料和思路的时候，会稍微用一下它，但主要还是靠自己的大脑来进行。那我的话，我感觉因为我自我分类也算是用的比较少，所以我就一块说了，我目前我感觉可能就只在15%吧，最近有一个很红的网图嘛，算你是人工智能到智能工人，最后是人工智能这样子嘛。我呢我只能说我mabe还算是个人工智人吧。但是。是我应该经常在能工智人跟能工智障人之间横跳，而那个表是没有写上能工智障人这么一个分类的，但是我觉得应该还有这么一个分类啊，所以何为能工智障人，能工智障人就是就是完全不会用，或者是有一句话叫什么猫随主人，的AI也会随你呀，对有时我就蛮蠢的，所以我的AI也会随我蠢蠢起来，所以目前就在这么一个状态。平时可能用。I问一些7788杂七杂8的神经质的问题，类似于什么哲学层面的，我为什么是我因为这种没有任何人可以跟我聊，所以我只能跟AI聊报告老师，我的那个chBTlow出来了，他给我分了四类，他说，情绪整理和情绪缓冲占40%，决策校准占30%，还有20%在自我理解和深层分析上面，工作辅助只占10%。好的，那我们有请在场唯一一位。😊智能工人来发表一下他的使用报告，笑死我先拆成工作和生活吧。在工作上，我感觉在我需要输出比较多的时候，它大概能占到我工作比例的60%到70%。但是现在的那种适配的比较好的AI生产模式里面，这应该也不是一个很高的比例。我是之前一直以为我用A。I用的算是至少在咱公司比较多了，但是呢也是前一阵收听了一期播客，叫做写给人文工作者的AI使用指南。我会发现人家已经啊把这个工厂流水线都给搭起来了，再回头一看，我司大家都还在普遍手搓。我只是在这个普遍手搓的基础上，有一条非常简单的流水线，但是还需要一个零件过来，我给他一锤一个零件过来，我给他一锤。我现在和AI的生产模式就是这样，就是他。负责输送，你负责给他一锤。就是你说他智能吗？他些许智能，但是有很多关键工序还在手动，还有一些我工作里面的零碎活，一些客服劳动，他也干不了，这就是我自己在干。在生活上面，我用他的场景还挺多的。比如我出国玩的时候会就是拍照，让他给我翻译菜单，也会让他给我做一些行程规划之类的，现在还会跟他咨询一些健康问题，我之前还试过，比如把我午饭的饭拍下来问他吃。多卡我蛋白质吃的够不够，我的碳水吃的够不够？他当时好像是说我蛋白质吃的不够，让我再加一个蛋，我就从善如流加一一个蛋。是，就是我们做这期，也是因为我们内部广泛学习了那期播客，人家就有提到说这个AI呀，就是至少一开始GPT什么的，都说自己是一个大语言模型。但是为什么从事一些语言相关工作的人用它用的最少，这不科学。所以我们反思我们觉得学习学习应该学习。对，开始深度。😊学习这就是学习的一环。就我们来复盘。我前一阵还看了一个数据，他在统计各个行业人工可以被AI取代的比例以及目前AI正在取代人工的比例。咱这行业咱这个行业哎可以被AI取代的人工比例挺高的，好像能到百分之七八十呢。哎呦但是好消息是现在进行非常缓慢，现在可能只被替代到。到了10%不到哦，也就是说咱这个行业他不太拥抱AI嗯，嗯，我还是猜测我们这个行业还是存在一些比较追求复古，觉得更古典的东西就是好的这么一种心态。比如大家还在维护这个纸质书和胶片的，主要也是因为咱的人工成本足够之低，足够有性价比。所以说回来我自己的话好像工作上30%，生活上10%吧，其实用的还真的不算特别多。嗯，嗯，工作上跟我。😊师傅的可能使用的方式差不多，但是就的确比如说跟客户沟通啊，填OA表格啊，报销啊什么的，还在独立做。但我在想是不是有了一个属于自己的agent之后，这个事他也能干的7788的以后，我觉得有一个AI无法做的事情，就是对一切负责。哦，一旦你这份工作里面最后需要有一个人为之负责，那你最后就是还得自己手动检查一遍。我会觉得有可能以后这种真人沟通是一种。附加服务就是比如当你还没掏出第一笔钱的时候，接待你的是AI，然后你掏了第一笔钱才会有活人开始接待你。生活上的话，我就想说嗯自己主动用的，其实相对来说比较少。但一般就是看八卦玄学。八卦玄学就是看你的那个命理八字，或者是看你的那个新盘分析，或者说今天是不是走大运，很无聊的一些事情就会问AI。然后但是我也会快速的学习一些我自己不太熟悉的领域。就比如说有一些金融知识啊，我就会速速的问一下，我大概就是这么个用法。我是觉得生活中用AI，它的确给了我很多10万个为什么的机会。，比如我昨天喝了一瓶酒，那个酒上有一个盲文，我就很想知道他盲文写的是什么，就拍照问了一下AI就给我讲了一下那个是啥意思，还给我讲了一下，现在有一些酒瓶上面是很乐意做一些无障碍设计的，然后给我讲了讲，我就觉得很有收获啊，，如果没有AI就是我。永远不可能知道那个盲文上上面讲的是什么，对吧？就是每天都有新鲜事。那你们最近有什么被AI震撼到的例子吗？我觉得统一来说，被AI震撼到的瞬间肯定都是你以为是人做的。但是你突然发现这个是纯AI做的。嗯我突然想到，因为我最近小说经常刷到一类视频。就用AI全部都是用它来生成的那种像动画人物一样的。然后会给你讲他是怎么穿输的，怎么复仇的，就真的是那种少儿不宜的动。片，但是它又是那样子的形式。你在看的时候，你会发现自己原来看的网文。因为你看网文的时候，其实很多时候也是这样的故事。但是你在看它的时候，你是通过自己大脑来想象的。然后这些网文当中当然有一部分会被改编成电视剧，但是整个工序极其长，就你又要选角，然后又要重新编那个剧本，最后呈现在大家的面前，可是用AI的话，你会发现好像它可以一下子就生成了。虽然那个东西吧，它就是很粗糙，肯定跟电视剧是不能比的。😊可是我会觉得他替代短句没有什么问题，好像越来越不需要动脑子了，整个过程变得越来越丝滑，你非常低成本的就能够享受到这些大众娱乐的刺激。可能以后真的会出现像什么头号玩家之类的那种场景，就是在这种大众文化的消费方面，我是有被震撼到。嗯，我感觉可以分享的故事，还是我用AI的体验。因为我是用GPT用的非常早，经历过他蛮傻的阶段，也在给他喂了很多东西，在看他一步一步写出我更想要的东西。但是相比起之前我有点把它当成一个我的实习生使用。我一定会反复的改它的东西。呃，这也是为什么那么容易看出AI味啊。就比如他那里面不是二是，就没删干净，或者是什么我稳稳的接住你不行，都删掉。经过无。竖轮的跟他这种反复吵架打磨，呃，否定到他的东西，喂给他更多我想要的东西之后，现在蛮恐怖的一件事情是，有的时候他吐出来东西我没啥可改的。甚至有的时候里面有一些词句，我觉得我想不到，我写不出来这种远生的东西。没错，有这种时候对啊，我觉得他能替我干活了。但是由于恐怖鼓了。嗯，你在用AI会感觉它是一个你的工具的时候，你会很明确。为了知道你想要什么，他给你的东西里面你不要的东西就很干脆的把它删去，跟他说，我想要再向哪个方向改。当最后他给出了一篇，你觉得哦还挺好的，好像没啥可改的东西，意味着你触及你的尽头了。嗯，就爱里看到自己的镜头。对，当然你在成长。但是你发现他给出一篇东西，你让你看到了你的底是有点令人害怕的。就是他意味着你的审美力到头了。你不知道该让指导他下一步如何做了，但其实已经可以听出来审美力会变成一个非常重要的东西，嗯，对吧？我最近有在看到一个还蛮有趣的观点，是小宇宙上一个主播，他叫乐珍，他应该是学哲学那一挂的，他应该有一期大概聊了一下他自己对这个AI的一些流行的看法吧。然后他就说到他觉得AI的流行是可能让文科重新起来。虽然这个事有点反直觉。但是他的一个。依据是因为在这个AI这么容易可以获得的情况下，人类的这个审美力会变得非常非常的重要。因为技术是可以被不断打磨和不断磨合嘛。但是你的人的一个品位和审美是决定了高度嘛。AI降低不了的是审美的门槛以及判断力的这个东西。就我是我听那个主播乐真他的那些播客听来的，所以他说人文社科的这个有可能会重新流行起来，是因为。他可能更加注重于培养大家的一种审美吧。我觉得AI最会可能取代的就是大头兵的工作。何为大头兵的工作，就是你做实习生或者初入职场前几年吧，就属于别人布置工作，你完成工作，别人指哪，你打哪儿。举个例子，比如我在做实习生或者做新人的时候，我每天领到的工作，可能就是说查这个嘉宾的资料，把他浓缩成两。字的简介，并且显得要和我们的主题相关。我每天都在干这种事情。我在做的看似脑力工作，其实是一种体力工作。反正现这种工作现在AI做的就挺好的，而且他取代了我们的一种幻想吧。一种我们可以一辈子做大头兵的幻想。以前你会觉得okK和我一批进入职场的人，有的人他很聪明，他就当领导，但是这个世界上总会需要大头兵。我如果在这块把它干的特别顺。那我 maybe必可以做一辈子大头兵，就干这套活。因为这段服它永远存在，现在它不存在了。没错，我觉得想先回应一下蓝妹刚刚说的那个审美力，我就好害怕这个审美力到底是由谁来定义的。就是你想AI的那些所有的他其实拥有的那些知识，就是人类共和的这些知识吧。只要是在互联网上，它能抓取的吧。人类有的这些知识，但这些知识里面，它肯定不可避免的，就有一些审美取向和判断。那这个审美力到底是谁来。😊定义的，我就会觉得让我想起来还是挺可怕的。谁要是拥有更多的这种弹药，好像他以后可能就是更是有这种审美力的霸权。但我确实觉得就是判断力这件事情是非常重要的。这个其实也就呼应了刚刚吴师傅说的那个就是很多大头兵的工作，你就完全可以被取缔了。但这种取缔就取缔大头兵，但是其实你很难取缔，最后审核大头兵工作的那个人嗯，因为AI无法负责。对，就我自己切身的职业经验来说的话。好，我觉得是最会期待那种对自己和对世界都胡皮潦草的人，就那种不敢问真问题，没有真的经验，没有判断力的人。其实因为没有真的经验，你很难有判断力。这个其实也是我跟我叔叔聊的比较多的一点。就比如说他怎么能判断得出来这个文章有AI味。前几天我也用AI做了一个方案之后呢，我当然做完了之后，我自己觉得哎他里面讲的东西都是对的。就是我的认知层面上面它都是对的。然后我就拿给我一个朋友一看，我朋友一看就说AI味真的很重啊啊。我说我怎么感觉不出来，然后他就标了几个字段给我，他就说我感觉这就是非常AI的一些说法。我就在想我说我识别不出来，其实真的是有好几个原因。第一个原因就是我没有用AI用的像吴数傅那么多。那就是我跟AI之间的这种真实经验还有待提升。还有一个就是我不是一个真正写文字的人，就是我不像在座各位就是真的是每天每天都在写很多的字，就我只能判断你这个内容是对还是错的。但是我。😊判断不了后面的那些东西。那这就是一个很具体的一个例子。就是我在一件事情上有判断力，在其他两件事情上我是没有的那没有的，我就在这一块，我交付出来的东西就是一个在这方面有判断力的人，一眼就看得出来，你这个东西做的不够好。但很残酷的就是我觉得中间刚刚我师傅也说了嘛，就实习生那些工作全部都会被压缩。我觉得与其说是判断力或者审美力把它再往下说他下面的东西，就是最简单的，你到底。知不知道你想要啥，嗯，你得非常知道你想要啥，你才能从AI这获得啥。你无法从AI这获得一个你描述不出来的东西，就像客户无法从我们身上获得一些他自己也不知道是什么。但是他就觉得说我感觉这个格调不对，你得在改改。这时作为乙方的我们通常就是所谓格调是和异味。所以我现在时常在思考，就是我们是如何。😡获得知道自己想要什么这种能力的。我感觉很多时候来自于受苦，就是我...（已截断）

Given all of the work that you've done, why is it that some goals.Feel effortless. And others feel like a chore. It, It's such an interesting question. And that that was what I.Wanted to figure out with this book, because I find with my own life. I'm productive on a daily basis. I'm focused on a daily, as you would hope, given I study this stuff for a living, looking at the research for this stuff for a living. But there were still goals that kind of fell by the wayside for me. You know, there exercise equipment that was in the basement that I hadn't really followed through with, You know, things that didn't really fire me up inside that I found that I wasn't really accomplishing. And so that that was what.Set me on this journey to write this book is seeing that we all have a sort of graveyard of forgotten goals. Every single person on the planet does. And so what is it that actually separates the goals that we're able to achieve and follow through with from the ones that we're not and when you dig into the research on this topic, So I dug into the academic literature on this topic, I actually spoke with a lot of Buddhist monks who you know, know more about intentionality.😊them。Almost any demographic, I would argue, even the scientists that study intentionality and goal attainment, all in an effort to untangle that web of essentially goal attainment, right, Why is it that we attain some goals and others, they feel meaningless. We procrastinate on them that we you know, we, we kick them down the street for another day, or they're just not something that fires us up inside. And so you discover a web of factors, you discover, you know.Procrastination is, is one angle, right, We procrastinate on some things when we follow through on others. Vals are another angle, actually, where, you know, values, my eyes have always glazed over when I've heard the you drinking there, by the way, looks this like pretty. This is I this is one of the rare times I'm drinking something that I'm not sponsored by. This is wow, This is a bloom pop. hold on, by the way, everybody, everyone's like fuck, I want to know what it is after procrastination. He was talking about values.So this is, this is Bloom pops. So my friend Greg Levakia. He owns this company called Bloom. They do green strings. And this is a like a poppy or an Oie pop. If you're familiar with that. is that a UK thing. No, I mean, Texas dude, Okay, I'm Canadian, though. Okay, maybe it hasn't got there. You guys have just received a fucking wheel Michael Jackson.This balloon pop stuff fucking rip dude. It's so tasty. I'm a massive fan of a chilled beverage. I'm a big chilled beverage guy. So highly recommend this is the.😊Rasspberry lemonade. and I'm not sponsored, but Greg was at my house for.The Super Bowl. and he brought round cases and cases of it. So I'm nice. Well shame on him for not sponsoring you. First of all, But yes, there's this web of, of things that that affect how much how many of our goals we attain from, you know, procrastating the answer procrastination to values to desire. There's a lot of science behind desire as well and social contagion. And so you discover just how many little nodes there are. But.A lot of the little things that either lead us to do something or not, they seem to orbit around both aversion, which leads to procrastination, as well as values, which sounds like an incredibly fluffy topic, but I promise it isn't there's real science behind that too. Okay, talk to me about the science behind values. Okay, yes, so whatever I hear the word values, my eyes have glazed over because I think, you know, some corporate consult.will come in and they'll give you a sheet of paper and there's 10 values on it and this is exactly what comes to my mind when I've heard it and there will be10 words on the page and they'll say circle the things that you value most on this page and there will be words like humor and grace and love and health and fitness So you know all the things that we all care about and you know part of me will want to circle the whole page because I think how can I be against any,This stuff, but all you have to do to figure out values is go to Google Scholar and type in values. the research does come right up there is incredible research in my opinion, that was asserted by shalom Schwartz he's probably the world's foremost expert on values in the world where essentially there are 12 different fundamental motivations that we all have on a deep and fun.mentental level, so these vary from, you know, looking at you, self direction right, would be one aspect. accomplishment is another strong value for a lot of people. but they vary right, pleasurelea is a fundamental human value as well, which is one of my highest Self direction and pleasure are my highest. So I love going my own way, doing my own thing, thinking my own thoughts, but I love a gigantic.😊Pllate of butter chicken at the end of the day. For example. So we all have a different c...（已截断）

Alright, everybody. Welcome back to the number one podcast in the world. fantasticantastic4, the original Oh, the cast is back. The cast is brothers in arms, brothers in arms. Here we go. Good boys. We' got a big newsweek. David Sachs is back.And hes in the great state of Texas. How's it been, Ss, Has Texas been for so far, It's been great, Although I just go back from D. C, I got like three hours sleep last night. So, but we had a lot of news this past week.😊Yes, and we'll be talking about Pcast and your role in the and your role going forward in the Trump administration, big news that we'll be talking about today also relates to you. O Sultan of science, David Freeberg, with your background.From the iconic film for those not watching, looks like the iconic Thema in Louise. I wonder if that has something to do with the budget of California, which you've been outspoken about recently Great rent, which I with Thank you boys. I retweeted it too if only. If only you could be allowed the time and space to do those kinds of rans on this pod. Yeah Thank you very much. Here he is. He's going again. He's going there it is.😊Doctor Doom, Doctor. Doom, your mayor, your new governor., would you consider it freeberg after O hollow running for governor, There is no after O hollow. Oh, please do it., Oh, please do it. Wow, that'd be so great. I'm tempted to buy O hollow for like 5 or 6 billion. So he just get dirty. He politics. California politics is dirty man. I don't even know what it does. I'll just have somebody else dealing the research. No, no, no, no, we get him elected. He would do an incredible job. He would save the fourth largest.🎼omy in the world. It would be incredible. It'd be amazing. I would love the Cur thepo Re Acts. David Fberg went to a in 1999 and stayed up until 10 AM. We have witnesses once he, he got tilted at the poker game, stole a bunch of pistachios and lac date and ran home. He did.😊What your winner.🎼Rain man, David attack.We open sources to the fans, and they just got crazy.🎼Lo me website size queen.Anthropic.Generational run and opening eye crashing out a bit, boys. Let's chop it up here.Just looking at enthropic, pretty major heater this year.January they launched co for business users, you know what that does Chon jobs, you can connect to your Gmail, your notion, whatever it is, and then Opus 4.6, which consensus wise, everybody thought this is a major step function Jensen, Michael Dell, everybody's called it out Jensen actually called it back in November an inflection point and the first agent model and Opus 4.6.Has basically Dell said, hit a threshold that we haven't seen before in terms of real productivity in teams February, they dropped a bunch of clo code plugins that caused the Saaspocalypse, not the Saspocalypse, the Saas software as a service I was a Saspocalypse too. Yeah, there was a little bit of that back and forth as well, know, I mean, as a Sa investor it was a it was a bit of a you were the tip of the spear there. we'll get into it. My exit comps were effective. That's all yes.し？It seems like you may have divested at exactly the right time.All right,$6 billion in annual run rate was added in February alone, Brad referenced a couple of weeks ago here on the pod earlier this week, they announced computer use, a new agenttic system for enterprise grade kind of open claw functionality Now you can use the claw app from your phone to control your desktop computer really slick feature, here's the calendar release over the past two months for the team at Anthropic.All right, come on the pond anytime, Ss.You've had a couple of flare ups and obviously the administration and the Department of War had their cur fluffle, but just.You know, looking at it objectively, what's your take on the the surging anthropic.Generational run, as I've described it here.Well, I've never been a critic of anthropics products. I've always been an admirer of their products. I think last year, I gave them credit for MCP. I agree that they seem to be performing very well. Now, the company made a big bet on coding as the kind of big breakout use case. whether that was done for business reasons or ideological reasons. I'm not sure.Ethropic is sort of the most AGI pill of all the frontier labs and I think they made this bet on coding as their way to get through recursive self improvementrovement as it turns out it was a very good business move as well because code is the gateway into enterprise and enterprise IT budgets and so they been able to grow revenue pretty quickly as a result of getting into enterprise Also coding seems to be the basis for these other product extensions so like you said,I wentnt from cloud code to cloud Cowork, the idea being that, well, if you can generate code, you can also generate PowerPoints or spreadsheets and you do that by generating the code to create that output.So that was the first extension now they are extending into agents.This computer use product is kind of like an ope...（已截断）

🎼The Joe Rogan experience during my day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.😊What's happening man, I'm good. How are you, I'm great. I watched your documentary, the Alabama solution last night, and it was wild. It's very, very disturbing. because of shocked. I hadn't heard more about it, You know, because it's such a terrible.Terrible story. It's adult.Just an unbelievably awful situation.And I think you covered it really well. It it very, very heartbreaking. Yeah, thanks for watching it.Yeah, it's sort of a question of.Serve of a question of why people.Don't know about things that are happening with our tax dollars in our backyards, you know, are there things that we don't want to know, there's a reason why people sort of drive by prisons on the highway and they see the little metal sign and it says you know X Y Z correctional and they probably think as I did for many years. Well, I'm sure it's not great back there but doesn't need to be great and if anything terrible was happening back there, somebody probably tell me about it. But because of the secrecy that surrounds prisons you know, we treat them sort of like black.Sites.There's no way for us to really look inside. So the press doesn't get lit in. And the public doesn't understand what's happening. And we know that, you know, when you give people total control over other people, Ba things happen. Ba things happen every single time. And this is one of the worst things. It's what's really terrifying is the sheer numbers of people that died there with no investigation. That's what's really terrifying. Yeah, because, you know, you even detailed that at the end, like since then.How many people have died?And it's just like good Lord, you're thousands, Yeah, well, there's an attorney general in Alabama named Steve Marshall who's always run on like tough on crime strategies and saying you know we got a lot more people up and people who are in prison for violent crime should potentially never get out of prison ever and he says in the film as you remember that I ask him about the nature of crime and he says, well, I think,ThinkThere are evil people in this world, people who have absolutely no regard for human life. And this is a guy who's presided over a system that's killed that's LED to the deaths of 1500 people just since we started making the film, So this question of like, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys And, you know, what's the nature of of cruelty. What's the nature of punishment. Are we putting people there to try to make them better, Rehabilitate them Are we putting them there because they're drug addicts and we're trying to.Get rid of them, as opposed to rehabilitate them or as opposed to try to get them off of drugs. So obviously, prisons have become pretty much a catch all for the ills of society. So if you have mental illness, much more likely to go to prison once you're in prison if you're mentally ill or you have bad social skills, you're much more likely to get into a scrape with a guard who probably isn't trained to deal with somebody who's mentally ill and you're much more likely to get murdered, which is what we saw happening in Alabama. Well, you, you even it's.The old expression, who's going to watch the watchers, right, because one of the things that you detail is very obviously nonviolent people who spend all their time writing and reading and they're getting retribution because they're calling attention to the terrible conditions at the prison, so.The one guy with glasses who was beaten blindly w his name at Robert Old Council.I mean, there's so many stories that you show in this documentary from.Smuggled cameras. So these guys all get contraband cameras from the guard from the guards. Yeah, the guards sell the camera, sell the sell the phones to the men inside, which is also crazy. Yeah, I mean, there's so many drugs in the Alabama State prison system. And I spoke to one of the people who was incarcerated there early on on a contraband cell phone. And I said, you know, we're all the the drugs coming from the amount of drugs here. This is an incredible, you know, human.😊Wasteland, you're seeing just high, high percentage. maybe 80% of the people are addicted to drugs, many of whom were not addicted to drugs before they came in. And how are you getting all the cell phones, And the guy looked at me like I was, you know, stupid. And he said, you know, we don't leave, right.And I thought, oh, I get it. The people that come and go are the guards. Those are the ones that go out. They get the packages. They bring them in. And I've spoken to guards who said, you know, we make $36000 a year without the drugs Without the cell phones. So, of course, we got to sell the cell phones and the drugs because that takes us up to 70 or 75000. Oh God.Yeah.Fわ.So what are the main drugs these guys are addicted to, What are they getting them Well there's there's.Originally right it was sort of more traditional drugs and people were using heroin a...（已截断）